Nadella has been nothing short of a disaster for MS in the consumer space. Outside of the enterprise where Amazon has seen to it that their future is far from certain MS is a zombie. This is why I thought that the book from Nadella was about Windows for phones Hit refresh. Blah blah blah Even reading your whole comment was a waste of time BIG TIME! I agree on the WP7 part or at least kept building off of WP8. Posted via the Windows Central App for Android V10 or Nexus 5X. Windows 10 is in over M devices already and the number is rising as we speak.

There are no alternatives as good as windows This means customers that are willing to pay.. I see your point, but try to break the MM down into desktop and mobile. Majority of those will be desktops where you may as well use web browser over a dedicated app, so this argument is not fully substantiated. You may be talking perhaps tens of millions for W10M, compared to hundreds of millions or over a billion for Android and iOS. I wonder why Google making Play Store available for Chrome OS when web browser is better than apps? I'm superoversimplifying it, and my opinion is not the only reason why they are doing it, but in a nutshell Think about millions of little kids who use Chromebooks, Google Docs, Google Drive, etc for years in K-5 grades. Do you think they'd switch to Windows once they would be old enough, to have parents buy them their own device, mobile or desktop?

Getting a foothold into school system is breeding grounds for your up and coming "customers to be" similar logic goes to enterprise. So millions of paying customers isn't profitable because there are MORE millions on other platforms?? I'm fairly certain the ROI breaking point for paying Netflix customers is easily satisfied by the number on Windows mobile. Ask yourself. would you do it on platforms bigger than a billion users? Of course they can hire more developers, of course they can build the app, of course they'd make profit on it. The issue lies with them having bigger ROI on the dominant platforms, so if you willingly choose to dedicate resources to segments with smaller ROI, you are in fact inflicting operating loss on yourself by willingly not realizing the revenue you may have had on the others.

I've way oversimplified it, but in short, that is the nut the devs need to crack. If I was Hastings and had shareholders and a board to be accountable to, I woudln't act differently. On the plus side Once there is new hardware, better mobile experience in or , the devs will be back As a hardcore Apple fan of many years, I'm totally astounded by the speed with which MSFT has been improving W10 and delivering builds. They literally started from the ground up with W10 and what took Apple and Google nearly 9 years mobile OS , MSFT did in 3. Yes they are still behind, yes they have less apps, and their mobile market share is abysmal, but their momentum is very strong. We are simply goting through a hard phase of their rebirth and it's difficult to not lose patience but they'll deliver.

I do appreciate a thoughtful point of view, which is uncommon around here. I think the equation starts off flawed, however. We are talking about front end that hooks into a backend that has already been completed. I also think it's too simple to say that a smaller userbase, by definition, means that it is a poor decision to invest in those users. Did Bank of America, American Express, Uber, etc, all make bad decisions for their investors? Are people screaming for those boards to be replaced. The fact is that an app for for our beloved platform costs a bank probably less than placing a few ATMs around and serves more of it's customers.

Netflix can affordably extend their reach adding goodwill and stickiness to customers like me. You're also asserting opportunity costs where I'm not sure they exist. If you have apps for iDroid, and you build one for Windows, you are not reducing the revenue or increasing the investment in the other apps. You are clearly adding customers, probably more than a more expensive promotion. Lyft, for example, sends me promotions that would cost them hundreds of dollar just to add me as a customer. I bet they'd freak out if they lost, say 5 million customers over the next 6 months. Why wouldn't they be ecstatic to gain that many?

Sorry, I should have mentioned that the 10MM was an example I threw out there, not based on reality. My own company a major one refused to implement certain app and when I asked the PM who worked on it, the primary decision reason was market share of the installed user base on WP and mismatch between our customer footprint and WP footprint. It was not the only decisioning factor, but it was the primary reason. These teams are all unde budget constraints and deadlines, jsut like the rest of us. If we knew precisely what the geographical and demographic distributions were of Netflix vs W10M in the markets Netflix was interested in, both me and you would get the answers. They'd jump right out at us. The Lyft example you used is interesting, though.

There is a major difference. You either ride Lyft or you don't. With Netflix on W10M, you still have the option to use their web experience without the app, which takes the edge off the urgency to have an app. It's not all or nothing situation Lyft is facing. Thanks for the follow up, though. Really appreciate your point of view! No alternatives as good as Windows 10? That's your opinion. Windilitows 7 was better, in my opinion. There was a consistency of design that is lacking in Windows For speed and stability, give me OSX or UBUNTU. But please, take Windows 10 away from me.

No, give me the satisfaction of wiping my hard system drive, and starting with a new OS you are hilarious. OSX or any Linux is a pile of trash compared to Windows OSX being stable is a straight up myth. Ive had more OS crashes and computer face screens of death than I can count on a mac. Sorry to hear your Mac is acting up. I'm running El Capitan on my Mac and have had no issues so far, except one, which ended up being a faulty RAM. El Cap is a really good release, IMO, in terms of stability. Have you booted into recovery and ran a hardware test? That's how I found that I bought RAM chips with lots of faulty blocks, which kept causing constant reboots and kernel panics.

Also running W10 Fast Ring on my laptop and having no issues either. Both W10 and Mac have their merits and I gladly use them both. Why do you have to ask to install a new OS just do it. Not to bright are you OK if you want OSX you should get a Mac, Hackintosh works but not as smooth but if you have a PC, install UBUNTU Where did I ask to install a new OS? to, too, two homonyms, but not synonyms. Windows 10 is a beast. I work with OSX, XP, Win7 and have win10 at home and on my tablet and win10 beats all the others in pretty much ever respect. Desktop PCs don't count. They just don't. Netlix, and just about everything else works great in a browser -- even with touch.

There is no need for apps. It's changing. Developers can do much more with dedicated apps than websites. And it just feels better overall :D Personally, I use dedicated apps for everything I can, and rarely open any browser. And I came from Win 7, where websites in the browser were the only way to make those things work :D. The Web has progressed into such a sophisticated platform that there is almost nothing that can't be done just as well in a browser as in an app. And competition among browser makers is so fierce that the Web, as an application environment, has much better tools available than any alternative platform.

Than why are so many developers building ugly, slow and sluggish websites? But they're not Do you mean windows central type websites? Adding so many ads and trackers that site is totally unusable? Yeah, kinda. That's why I only read WC articles in the app, among many other reasons. Tech blogs are different animals, I think there is a rule for them that websites must suck. Try Firefox with Addblock. You'll love the Web again. It's just better since I use Edge but still sucks. Never loved IE to be honest, it was a POS :D. With HTML5 the web is essentially an application platform. Try using web version of Instagram. Then try post a picture if you can. No, you're the one in the wrong. I am a software engineer. Its FAR easier to develop desktop or rich client applications like app store apps. Every "advancement" in web applications development is yet another band-aid to try and cover the fact that the web was never intended to be an application platform.

The only reason the web ever became popular for application development was that it was easier to deliver the application to the end users; which the various app stores have now replicated. You are partially right, but apps are not where mobile is headed. It is where mobile has been. MSFT, FB, GOOGLE know it and AAPL is as secretive as ever, so hard to tell what they are up to. Think about your phone today - you download dozens of apps, you spend lot of time searching for the right one, then you end up using it twice a year, then you delete it when your phone runs out of space. In reality, most of us use less than dozen apps every day, yet there are millions in the store. App model is flawed, it's been flawed since day one, but it was better than web back then.

Where mobile is headed - as x I'm tc pointed out - is back to the web. Only, it will be a different web. The web you know was a browser you used to view content. The "new" web will make it feel like there is no browser, with ful bleed enge to edge experience, so instead of you downloading the app, it will be a web app, running full screen, hosted on the server and you viewing it in a web browser, without even knowing it, while the server does all teh heavy lifting for you, not your phone. That is where we are headed and that's why I'm not worried about MSFT's app gap as much anymore.

They know that the app era is about to yield to something else. Chat bots are only one aspect of the sea of possibilities with web apps. Have you thought that it could be a Framework issue? Not a OS issue, but a. Net Framework issue. For me is a very good reason for the Apps to crash constantly on Windows 10 [write down here your favorite flavor]. I have just been on the Netflix site and it says they are currently having issues streaming on apple, android, and other devices and they are working to resolve issues. So hopefully it is not to do with Windows I have no issues streaming, Me neither. Never have. And on desktop I prefer browser anyway since it has double click for full screen and skipping with arrow keys. I have had Netflix problems for months. For months, on my Xbox One anyhow. I have similar problems with my SmartTV, but not with my W10, W8.

Hope the pull out would mean that we will have a better Netflix app and a UWP one. They already have one. But not on mobile. Was pertaining to a true UWP app - all screen sizes. Yep but at least the old app was working fine. And let's not forget it, an UWP app would also work in Continuum. I sent a tweet to Nexflix to explain what's going on Hope for an answer. Shouldn't that be "sent"? Shouldn't that be 'Oh'??!! Edit: After reading responses below, I understand for those who are truly trying to help. I am Dutch, so 'send' or 'sent' mistakes can happen. I agree totally. And he has also the right to be corrected, so that he can avoid the mistake in the future Nobody is shooting anybody By the way, freedom of speech is a completely different thing I used to be absent from many classrooms, maybe. I missed a philosophy class! I suspect you have missed more than just a philosophy class. You probably right, i guess I'm. Not the best judge on this matter! Nor am I, but I am sure we can agree that when ones make a grammar mistake another should be allowed to correct withouth being judged.

I see it happening a lot and I truly can't see what's wrong with pointing out mistakes in a constructive way. I guess you're right, i was trying. To be funny, but i failed, i better go looking for some POKÉMON! I agree. No problem here. If someone wants to correct me, thats fine. Somebody bump this post. Works on PC and Mobile. I don't really use Netflix so at the moment I'm not that bothered, but I do have Flixter, the only issue is that the full service is not available outside the USA, why? They could surprise us and launch the Windows 10 Mobile app :D Posted via the Windows Central App for Android. I thought it was UWP already. Wasn't it one of the first to have continuum support? UWP doesn't automatically mean mobile. Yes true but I mentioned continuum which is.

I dont think theyre leaving. I think its just more of a security reason. If I remember correctly, Netflix is one of the companies that has some partnership with MS. Their CEO sat on MS board Reed Hastings. Works fine for me. Duh, nm it was through my PlayStation. Checked my phone works fine on the droid and my pc with w Dammit and just when I signed up to it again. Hope its not too serious. It is not the build. I am on the latest Fast track and watch on PC and my Finished an episode just this morning and signed in just now to test. No problem. I have noticed despite a nice looking update on Xbox , it freezes. I just checked: the app works on my Lumia XL, but crashes on my Surface Pro I assume that the app on my Xbox One still works. Just saying can't blame the OS update. This is far more complicated than "Microsoft broke this,"though it has happened before Tweetium.

How hard is to make W10 app?!? I'm not developer nor I don't have any knowledge in programming but is seems that it's nearly impossible! I really don't like Windows 10's UX. And I'm still in development of desktop apps. UWP never attracted me that much. But it's nice to have. It's not that hard, not that easy. You can make a basic app with html and JavaScript easily in UWP. So I don't know more about it. As far as I know is all about Windows 8's API. But still Desktop is my preference. Well it still works on my nokia lumia here in australia and it works fine. Still works fine for me. Its back in the store. My Netflix works fine on the latest builds. Netflix has been ruined fine on my tablet, , and Surface pro 4. Hulu has also been working fine too. The app was not UWP but they kept it pretty up to date; they even implemented the new branding only weeks after the iDroid counterparts.

What the hell is going on with these apps randomly disappearing then coming back? First BBM, then Amex, now Netflix? Is this a resubmission thing for the store? Or is it an issue on MSFT's side? It's the transition between 8. It's way more justifyable to keep a person or a team working on a Windows 10 app than a 8. Could this be a sign that they're working on the UWP? That's long overdue. In any case, the app always worked well for me, even when I tend to use the browser version which looks slightly better design wise. Also I never understood why the web version doesn't run on mobile's Edge, thus making it impossible to watch Netflix on Continuum which would be a natural thing to do. tl;dr: Netflix, get your act together. Windows is becoming dead by day by day. Just contacted netflix support. There were issues on W10? I have it on my XL and it has never given me an issue. Is it still available on WP8. I just downloaded it from the Store.

I can still see it in the Windows 10 store on PC. so can I just to way in on this trend here I have been told it has disappeared not here it hasn't. I must be lucky, I can find and install the Netflix app, just checked and it's still there in the store. I checked and it's still in the store. If you look in the category "TV Central", it's there. If you search by name, it doesn't show. It's probably just a store glitch. Works on my Xbox, but my L hasn't been able to open app for long time. Just exits after few. Reinstall no help. I see it in the Store as well, though I already have it installed. Returned, or never left? I sometimes get a similar screen when WiFi fails in w They broke the mobile app on Windows 10 so I guess are working out a fix.

For me, running on the just instantly crashed. Uninstalled, reinstalled and crash. So it definitely needed a fix. What Build are you on? On the latest Fast Insider ring it works on my Working fine as usual on my Lxl. Working great on my XL as well. Interesting it must have been pulled overnight because I was looking at it in the store last night on my tablet. Maybe there is hope for a UWP version of Netflix. Isn't your tablet running "full" PC SKU of Windows 10, which has a UWP app already? Also, If you have one of those small tablets running W10M I'm jealous - They seem few and far between but TBH I think it would be great, I mainly use things like Wunderlist, Email, Web which all would work well on a W10M tablet.

Sorry, should have clarrified, hoping for UWP version for the phone. and yes my tablet HP stream 7 is running full x that'll teach me for writing too early in the morning:. Works for me on my xl. It takes 21 seconds to open in my L! Not good Well mine was always working correctly. But good to read it is back on the store. What is this link??? Really strange. If anyone else does the same above and it works or does not work , please post back. I'm on Windows 10 version Fall Creators Update 64 bit. Was this reply helpful? Yes No. Sorry this didn't help. Thanks for your feedback. Choose where you want to search below Search Search the Community. Search the community and support articles Windows Windows 10 Search Community member. I download episodes and movies onto my Netflix app on Windows 10, the app and the computer are completely updated, and everything looks fine. But when I go to play one of my offline things, there's no play button for me to click on, and I can't play anything.

Has anyone else had this problem or have any idea how to fix it? I've tried going directly to the file location where the download is stored and trying to launch it in Netflix but i can't do that. It's really frustrating to expect this to work right and then it doesn't. This thread is locked. You can follow the question or vote as helpful, but you cannot reply to this thread. I have the same question Report abuse. Details required :. Cancel Submit.

Ask a new question. Was this reply helpful? Yes No. Sorry this didn't help. Thanks for your feedback. Choose where you want to search below Search Search the Community. Search the community and support articles Windows Windows 10 Search Community member. Hey I just downloaded the netflix app for my windows 10 computer. but for some reason when i click on videos that ive downloaded before on another computer. there is no download option anywhere how do i fix this? This thread is locked. You can follow the question or vote as helpful, but you cannot reply to this thread. I have the same question Report abuse. Details required :. Cancel Submit. Replies 2 . Vijay A. Verma Volunteer Moderator. Please try these options one by one and check after each option. These options are independent and can be executed in any sequence. Do let me know if these don't work for you. If not, I will provide further troubleshooting steps to you to solve this problem.

Logout of Netflix app and login again. This problem is also caused by Intel Display Driver. How satisfied are you with this reply? Thanks for your feedback, it helps us improve the site. Andre Da Costa Volunteer Moderator. This site in other languages x. Čeština Dansk Deutsch Español Français Italiano Magyar Nederlands Norsk Bokmål Polski Português Suomi Svenska Türkçe Ελληνικά Русский עברית العربية ไทย 한국어 中文 简体 中文 繁體 日本語.

Don't even find the in Store. Or maybe it does make sense since it can be universal, but we shouldn't call them Universal when only running on a specific device. July What's New with FonePaw Screen Recorder 3. But they're not Rumor is the UFO that forced NASA to cut the ISS live feed a few days back neared the orbit of one of Netflix's satelite and used a tractor beam to drag it to Nubiro. They really need to work on it.

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